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my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is they know the speaker was trying to get there and my sense from talking to the speaker's staff that the president wanted to get there. this came up and it caused them to fall apart. >> is that how you understand it it went down? >> i'm not sure and i'm not sure it will end at some time. they didn't reach agreement and mitch mcconnell had arrived in the senate and cook up a deal which would put this out for 18 months, once again, mitch mcconnell has to ride to the rescue. it's a very interesting situati
my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up...
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that could be a problem for john boehner. >> reporting live from capitol hill. thank you. briefly, some of what is in this deal, taxes increasing for individuals who make more than $400,000, households making more than $450 and capital gains tax increase to 20%. the alternative minimum tax permanently patched to keep it from affecting more. the estate tax will have a $10 million exemption. and tell extend stimulus tax credits and unemployment and for children, unearned income. we return to the all-american new year's eve special. >>> happy new year, everybody from happening now crew. here comes lucky number 13, my new year's resolution to get john scott to do a test motor. come on, john. >> maybe. >> 2013? >> could be the year. >> you can't change the past. i didn't enter in 2012 but there is always the future that you can alter. >> good pint. >> happy new year, eefsh nicely done. thank you. wonderful colleagues but both. i feel the wind shifting. do you? >> before it was okay. when it comes from this direction down 7th avenue, we're in trouble. >> it's fun for people at h
that could be a problem for john boehner. >> reporting live from capitol hill. thank you. briefly, some of what is in this deal, taxes increasing for individuals who make more than $400,000, households making more than $450 and capital gains tax increase to 20%. the alternative minimum tax permanently patched to keep it from affecting more. the estate tax will have a $10 million exemption. and tell extend stimulus tax credits and unemployment and for children, unearned income. we return...
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and speaker john boehner saying he should spend more time negotiating, why are you on tv while mitch mcconnell is working with harry reid to troy to get a deal. the president's point was if they do not make any progress on bipartisan talks in the senate since the clock is running out he wants a straight up and down vote on the senate on his fallback level. put it go in the $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans americans americans, dana. >> this is bob beckel. are you done? >> i had a great question, but age before beauty. >> a lot of age and no beauty. >> what? >> ed, truth be known, and we see this fiscal cliff and the calamity of the day on january 1st, tonight is true the white house dot much care if they get it on the first or the fifth? >> reporter: you're right, with withholding, some people will not feel the effects of a tax increase the first couple of days, you might have time to finagle that, the treasury department has that authority. the fact of the matter, what they're more nervous about in the white house and republicans on the hill ar
and speaker john boehner saying he should spend more time negotiating, why are you on tv while mitch mcconnell is working with harry reid to troy to get a deal. the president's point was if they do not make any progress on bipartisan talks in the senate since the clock is running out he wants a straight up and down vote on the senate on his fallback level. put it go in the $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans americans americans, dana. >> this is bob...
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this is very tricky for john boehner and his lieutenant. they have a relatively narrow house majority, polls show that the fiscal cliff blame would be mostly on them, not the president. not on democrats. that might change. but this is a very risky move if we go well into january with this unresolved. >> and you got to wonder if the house republicans are kicking themselves for not passing the plan b, which allowed for tax rates on people making a million or more since the figure that passed was significantly less at 400,000. bob cusack, thank you. we appreciate you being with us. >> thanks, deb. >>> well, developing this hour in alaska, on a shallow and rocky shore line near the uninhabited kodiak island, a huge oil rig has run aground. it has run aground. the coast guard has done a flyover of the shipwreck. it says that there is no signs of an oil spill. at least not at this stage. the kulluk is carrying 150,000 gallons of fuel and oil, operating as part of shell's controversial arctic drilling program. >>> well, word of new fallout from th
this is very tricky for john boehner and his lieutenant. they have a relatively narrow house majority, polls show that the fiscal cliff blame would be mostly on them, not the president. not on democrats. that might change. but this is a very risky move if we go well into january with this unresolved. >> and you got to wonder if the house republicans are kicking themselves for not passing the plan b, which allowed for tax rates on people making a million or more since the figure that...
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well, all eyes do now turn to the republican-controlled house and speaker john boehner. about two hours before the senate voted, the house leadership said it would take a wait-and-see approach. "decisions about whether the house will seek to accept or promptly amend the measure will not be made until house members and the american people have been able to review the legislation." with me now, "the washington post's" david machimura and steve toma, chief political correspondent for "mclatchy" newspapers. good morning. >> good morning. >> happy new year. >> happy new year. david, let's talk about what we're going to see in the house. obviously, if it passes, a lot of people will probably be voting yes while they're holding their nose, but could there also be a revolt from conservative members that could threaten this bill? >> i think, chris, you can never predict completely smooth passage, especially in the house, but i think the senate wouldn't feel this confident about the bill had there not been some discussion between the two chambers. and i think if you look back to a
well, all eyes do now turn to the republican-controlled house and speaker john boehner. about two hours before the senate voted, the house leadership said it would take a wait-and-see approach. "decisions about whether the house will seek to accept or promptly amend the measure will not be made until house members and the american people have been able to review the legislation." with me now, "the washington post's" david machimura and steve toma, chief political...
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boehner and mitch mcconnell and democratic leaders harry reid and nancy pelosi. returning to capitol hill mitch mcconnell went to the senate floor saying he is optimistic there can be a deal. he believes it can come by sunday afternoon, and at that point he would go back to the president with whatever it is he and reid are agreeing to. he said's optimistic that the next 24 hours are critical. however, tennessee senator bob cochran says even if a deal does get done don't expect too much. >> we're goakd up with a small kick the can down the road bill that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> the president did say deja vu all over again. if corker is right, we are going to say some of the same machinations we've seen before. if it doesn't happen, the president wants that up or down vote on his plan. >> remember night, monday night is new year's eve when it all could go bad. >> and happy new year to you. >> thank you, gary. >>> and economists are warning that going over that fiscal cliff could pull us all back into recession. congress impre
boehner and mitch mcconnell and democratic leaders harry reid and nancy pelosi. returning to capitol hill mitch mcconnell went to the senate floor saying he is optimistic there can be a deal. he believes it can come by sunday afternoon, and at that point he would go back to the president with whatever it is he and reid are agreeing to. he said's optimistic that the next 24 hours are critical. however, tennessee senator bob cochran says even if a deal does get done don't expect too much....
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at some point, john boehner goes there. i don't know if that's going to be on december 31st or the first week of january. if it's not the first week of january, i think it would be fairly soon after that, because again, the reason why smart people like tom cole and bob corker and john cornen have said we ought to give on the tax cuts of people under 250,000 is they know that's where the thing is going to end up unless they cut some deal and bring their caucus along on some higher threshold. the president offered 400,000. they could get that. they could probably get 500,000. >> go ahead, bob. >> i was going to say now is the time when we really find out whether republican leadership is an oxymoron. we not only have to rely on john boehner having enough leadership and guts and gumption to put something on the floor his republicans are not going to vote for, but we also have to agree to go through with a bill before the senate that is basically what the president wants so it can put pressure on the republicans and the house. >
at some point, john boehner goes there. i don't know if that's going to be on december 31st or the first week of january. if it's not the first week of january, i think it would be fairly soon after that, because again, the reason why smart people like tom cole and bob corker and john cornen have said we ought to give on the tax cuts of people under 250,000 is they know that's where the thing is going to end up unless they cut some deal and bring their caucus along on some higher threshold. the...
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. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress. we are going to hit the debt ceiling. it never ends. >> happy new year's america. ♪ >> 29 and a half hours that is how long congress will have to avoid going over the fiscal curve on sunday night. >> if we go over the cliff, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today with the first of the year, aren't here. i can't mamg they are out wherever they r and we are here trying to get something done. >> president obama called leaders last night and tomorrow afternoon we will meet with the speaker and mix mcconnel and harry reid to see if they can avoid goin
. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress....
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one was the unof unfortunate, sad, unsuccess of john boehner's plan b, in the house why he could not herd the cats. but other part i think is you get only one president at a time. the president is presiding here. somehow with this president, it's always cliffs. it's never deals. it's always up to the last moment. i think there is a deficit there of very broad-minded leadership, and there is certainly a deficit of trust between the congress and the president, and 20 republican in congress and the democrats. so plenty of fault to go around. >> o'donnell: dee dee, what about that? mitch mcconnell, who is really now at the heart of make something sort of deal today about how far he can take republicans, he says the president called him last week. it was the first time he's talked to the president since november 16. why is-- is there something the president is responsible for that he's not reached out enough to republicans and established that kind of trust that there has been lacking? >> look, i would have liked to have seen the president do more reaching out during the entirety of his f
one was the unof unfortunate, sad, unsuccess of john boehner's plan b, in the house why he could not herd the cats. but other part i think is you get only one president at a time. the president is presiding here. somehow with this president, it's always cliffs. it's never deals. it's always up to the last moment. i think there is a deficit there of very broad-minded leadership, and there is certainly a deficit of trust between the congress and the president, and 20 republican in congress and...
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speaker john boehner calls the house back into session for sunday night. that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate. "the kudlow report" start ises right now. >>> the big news tonight, still the developments in washington on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of rhetorical jabs f
speaker john boehner calls the house back into session for sunday night. that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned...
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house speaker john boehner says the senate needs to act first. meantime, just about 40 minutes ago, tim geithner said the u.s. is simply running out of money. let's get the latest on this game of chicken from c nbc's chief political correspondent, john harwood. john? >> melissa, i want to bring you up to date on the fiscal cliff developments. first of all, as you mentioned, secretary geithner has informed the senate that the united states government will hit its debt ceiling on monday. that is december 31st. now, that doesn't mean that anything happens immediately, because the treasury can take various steps to postpone the moment of reckoning, probably a couple of months. it's still significant. that's an effort to pressure congress. secondly, the house republicans have met, leadership has met, sent a letter to democrats saying the house has acted, now it's up to the senate to act. that's, of course, the m theic-controlled senate which has no intention of taking up that house bill, which would extend all of the bush tax cuts. the president wants
house speaker john boehner says the senate needs to act first. meantime, just about 40 minutes ago, tim geithner said the u.s. is simply running out of money. let's get the latest on this game of chicken from c nbc's chief political correspondent, john harwood. john? >> melissa, i want to bring you up to date on the fiscal cliff developments. first of all, as you mentioned, secretary geithner has informed the senate that the united states government will hit its debt ceiling on monday....
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the speaker john boehner and the rest of the republicans in the house are still on vacation here is democratic senate majority leader harry reid on the floor of the sun today warning that it looks like the nation is going over the cliff. if we go over the cliff and it looks like that's where we're headed as president the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today before the first year aren't here with the speaker having told them they'll have you know given forty eight hours notice i can't imagine their consciences they're out wherever they are around the country and we're here trying to get something done. they are not in washington d.c. d.c. house arizonans are not here going over the cliff means a tax increase on all americans but it also means a significant cut to the already bloated defense budget and war profiteers around virginia are nervous about this the aerospace industries association which represents more than three hundred defense companies released a statement today saying risking american lives and livelihoods for political leverage is wrong the victims
the speaker john boehner and the rest of the republicans in the house are still on vacation here is democratic senate majority leader harry reid on the floor of the sun today warning that it looks like the nation is going over the cliff. if we go over the cliff and it looks like that's where we're headed as president the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today before the first year aren't here with the speaker having told them they'll have you know given forty eight...
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there are theories put forward by many democrats that john boehner would not put any type of tax vote that would inflame his cause cuss, inflame conservatives around the country until after that gavel is safely in his hands when the new congress is sworn in on january 3rd. so things are still very much up in the air. we do know they will technically be going over that cliff at midnight tonight because the house and the senate for that matter have not voted on anything, and there is no handshake agreement that we are aware of on the totality of a deal, chris. >> if you could stand by, mike, i also want to bring in kristin welker who is at the white house and get a gauge of the mood there and what they think the next step is here. >> reporter: well, chris, they continue to say that they're optimistic, but, of course, they have been saying this all day and as mike points out, until there is a final deal, there is no deal. so they are hoping that through their conversations, they say they have been working the phones all day long. of course, the president, vice president, who has been dee
there are theories put forward by many democrats that john boehner would not put any type of tax vote that would inflame his cause cuss, inflame conservatives around the country until after that gavel is safely in his hands when the new congress is sworn in on january 3rd. so things are still very much up in the air. we do know they will technically be going over that cliff at midnight tonight because the house and the senate for that matter have not voted on anything, and there is no handshake...
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john boehner, come on. adam: won't you come home, john boehner, won't you come home. >> these guys are off in their districts, hawaii, sipping my ties with melissa francis. adam: she is in south florida. >> let's get back to work. adam: check this out. this is the world's longest high-speed rail line which stretches 1400 miles in china. takes passengers from beijing, to, i can't say that name. thank you. me and pronounciations. i can barely get shapiro right. before the train existed the travel time was twrept hours between the two cities. now it only takes eight hours. will we ever see something like this in the united states? julie, do we need it? is it relevant for high-speed rail in the united states? >> for those of us who ride the corridor for every stuck up. adam: faster sometimes to go on the regular train. >> i love this. apparently if we had the high-speed rail, new york to d.c., god knows why you want to go to d.c. under hour which i love. americans love their cars. adam: bingo. >> china doesn't
john boehner, come on. adam: won't you come home, john boehner, won't you come home. >> these guys are off in their districts, hawaii, sipping my ties with melissa francis. adam: she is in south florida. >> let's get back to work. adam: check this out. this is the world's longest high-speed rail line which stretches 1400 miles in china. takes passengers from beijing, to, i can't say that name. thank you. me and pronounciations. i can barely get shapiro right. before the train...
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boehner his plan b. failed last week as proving that even the smallest tax increase on the smallest group of rich americans camp as the republican house republican congressman steve la tourette blasted the tea party wing of his party saying it's the continuing dumbing down of the republican party and we are going to be seen more and more as a bunch of extremists that can't even get a majority of our own people to support policies that we're putting forward is singled out forty chuckleheads that all you have screwed this place up and in the editorial pages of today's financial times an op ed asked about the future of the republican party and described the faltering party this way today's republican party is a bit like a headless body striking out blindly against change. with this sort of talk making the rounds of serious publications like the financial times clearly something is wrong the republican party which thought it was headed for a big night november end up getting creamed losing the presidency los
boehner his plan b. failed last week as proving that even the smallest tax increase on the smallest group of rich americans camp as the republican house republican congressman steve la tourette blasted the tea party wing of his party saying it's the continuing dumbing down of the republican party and we are going to be seen more and more as a bunch of extremists that can't even get a majority of our own people to support policies that we're putting forward is singled out forty chuckleheads that...
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john boehner made the offer to take it off the table for a year but i want to show what lindsey graham has to say over the weekend on "meet the press." >> the big chance for a big deal is that the debt ceiling. that's when we'll have leverage to turn the country around, prevent it from becoming greece and save social security and medicare and to anybody listening to this program, i'll raise the debt ceiling only if we save medicare and social security from insolvency and prevent this country from becoming greece. >> prevent this country from becoming greece. what is your reaction to that? >> absolute and utter nonsense. this country is not becoming greece. this country -- this country, frankly, has a big unemployment problem. we have a deficit problem in the short term, not the long term. it's not a real problem now. our bonds selling higher than before and lower interest rates. it's not an immediate problem. he's saying what's worse. what he is saying is use blackmail on the entire economy like a gangster. pity if it happens to blow up. not increasing the debt ceiling -- >> already di
john boehner made the offer to take it off the table for a year but i want to show what lindsey graham has to say over the weekend on "meet the press." >> the big chance for a big deal is that the debt ceiling. that's when we'll have leverage to turn the country around, prevent it from becoming greece and save social security and medicare and to anybody listening to this program, i'll raise the debt ceiling only if we save medicare and social security from insolvency and prevent...
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republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it to the house floor for a vote before new year'
republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called...
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there could be enough votes in the house, speaker john boehner talked about amending that bill. i think if it gets a 70 to 30 senate vote i think i it get te votes in it the house to pass but it might not happen until after january 3, january 4. >> i want to ask you about what ed henry was just reporting. president obama says either a deal is reached or you vote on the short-term stop gap measure. if republicans fail to pass it i'm summarizing it's their fault. so the president kind of tossing the ball into the republican's camp, placing blame on them. in your opinion s that presidential leadership? >> the republicans have gone after the president that he has deferred to congress on this is that he was unable to strike a deal between -- with speaker boehner and now it is to reid and mcconnell. on one hand, obama is criticizing the congress but also giving them the responsibility to come up with a deal. this is on his watch. obama does not want this going into next year. he wants to move quickly on immigration and energy and maybe gun control. so, but he has not been able to stri
there could be enough votes in the house, speaker john boehner talked about amending that bill. i think if it gets a 70 to 30 senate vote i think i it get te votes in it the house to pass but it might not happen until after january 3, january 4. >> i want to ask you about what ed henry was just reporting. president obama says either a deal is reached or you vote on the short-term stop gap measure. if republicans fail to pass it i'm summarizing it's their fault. so the president kind of...
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you're watching to see if they back down and how much support john boehner is willing to use to put the deal on the floor. >> woodruff: ed todd zwillich, we'll see whether you get much sleep tonight. thank you. >> no problem, judy. >> suarez: now, our second look at this continually unfolding story, with little time left before the 112th congress ends thursday at noon. for that, we are joined by congressmen from both sides. representative tom cole is a republican from oklahoma. representative chris van hollen of maryland is the ranking member on the budget committee and part of the democratic leadership team. representative cole, let me start with you, since you've just come from a powe wow with your side of the aisle. what's the latest? is a vote imminent? has there been any shift from an earlier stated determination to amend the current bill? >> well i think there's discussion on the way. that meeting is still going on. so i stepped out early and i wouldn't presume to comment on any final decisions. but, look, at the end of the day, we're doing what you ought to do. we have a product
you're watching to see if they back down and how much support john boehner is willing to use to put the deal on the floor. >> woodruff: ed todd zwillich, we'll see whether you get much sleep tonight. thank you. >> no problem, judy. >> suarez: now, our second look at this continually unfolding story, with little time left before the 112th congress ends thursday at noon. for that, we are joined by congressmen from both sides. representative tom cole is a republican from...
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one person isn't spotted yet on the beltway is house speaker john boehner and harry reid took him to task for it earlier. demanding that he bring the chamber of commerce back to session for a deal to be struck. >> the house of representatives with four days left aren't here with the speaker having told them he will give them 48 hours' notice. if we go over the cliff it will be with the knowledge that could have been done with a single vote. >> andrea: boehner's spokesman said reid should talk less. the speaker insists the senate should ask first for members to reconvene on sunday. we can go off the cliff. pass the obama tax cut and reinstate the sequester cuts to things like he likes like the national institute of health and cut the defense budget. put republicans in the corner to say you want to bring a bill to the floor? be my guest. am i right? >> bob: my, you are cynical. keep in mind, they said, boehner said he wants to go to the senate. under the constitution, you cannot start a bill on taxes in the senate. has to come from the house. there is a 48-hour limit because you have t
one person isn't spotted yet on the beltway is house speaker john boehner and harry reid took him to task for it earlier. demanding that he bring the chamber of commerce back to session for a deal to be struck. >> the house of representatives with four days left aren't here with the speaker having told them he will give them 48 hours' notice. if we go over the cliff it will be with the knowledge that could have been done with a single vote. >> andrea: boehner's spokesman said reid...
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speaker john boehner to bring it to a floor for a vote. tom cole says he's confident boehner can get the plans he needs. >> he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal john boehner request accept, frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral and not favorable. then his chances are going to be a lot slimmer. >> we will find out in the morning whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >>> we've been asking you our viewers to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives, so let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to grow this economy for the long term not the short term. >> have a good night. i'm don le
speaker john boehner to bring it to a floor for a vote. tom cole says he's confident boehner can get the plans he needs. >> he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal john boehner request accept, frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral and not favorable. then his chances are going to be a lot slimmer. >> we will find out in the morning...
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john boehner -- >> but mitch mcconnell did reach ute to the president. do you see that as posturing, we're doing our best, or do you think the republicans are serious and feeling pressure about making a deal? >> i don't think they feel that much pressure. i think they feel -- they feel a little bit of pressure but feel more pressure from their base and from the right, and that is especially true in the house among the house caucus. the whole reason for that plan b fiasco, of course, that boehner pulled before christmas, was that his more conservative members wouldn't agree to any tax increase at all, even on incomes above $1 million a year. the pressure they feel is from the right, and believe me, you look down the list of the republicans in the house of representatives and try to look and see what percentage of the vote barack obama got in their districts. which is a good barometer of how much kind of pressure they might feel to moderate. barack obama got 38%, 42% in most of their districts. they don't care about what democrats in their districts think.
john boehner -- >> but mitch mcconnell did reach ute to the president. do you see that as posturing, we're doing our best, or do you think the republicans are serious and feeling pressure about making a deal? >> i don't think they feel that much pressure. i think they feel -- they feel a little bit of pressure but feel more pressure from their base and from the right, and that is especially true in the house among the house caucus. the whole reason for that plan b fiasco, of course,...
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if mcconnell and reid can hammer out a deal that's acceptable to both of them i believe that john boehner will let that deal come up for a vote in the house, and i believe that vote will pass in the house though probably with majority democrat. if that happens, we may well have a deal. >> you said a big f, though. if mcconnel and reid can hammer something out. the senate hasn't passed a budget in years, jared. tell me, how is harry reid going to come up with something by monday? >> well, as you've been stressing for most of the show, correct me, this is not a budget. this is a last-minute deal that's going to have a few components and i will count them on one hand that will have a tax threshold. 250. i wouldn't be surprised if they went to him with a higher number. u.n. extension, doc fix and the umt with the sequester and that would be it. >> jimmy p., what do you think? will we have a deal on monday and is it going to be enough? >> i think we will have a deal. one big difference now than maybe a couple of weeks, three weeks ago is a lot of republicans believe that eventually they really
if mcconnell and reid can hammer out a deal that's acceptable to both of them i believe that john boehner will let that deal come up for a vote in the house, and i believe that vote will pass in the house though probably with majority democrat. if that happens, we may well have a deal. >> you said a big f, though. if mcconnel and reid can hammer something out. the senate hasn't passed a budget in years, jared. tell me, how is harry reid going to come up with something by monday? >>...
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the john boehner has said chain cpi. and medicare eligibility age. >> right. >> those are the two things that he's laid out for medicare and social security. >> right. >> your party's nominee last year ran against obama -- or in this campaign ran against obama for cutting medicare. what are the specific entitlement savings that you guys want to enact? because that's your ask of obama. he's told you what taxes he wants to raise. >> i've got a whole list of them. i mean, certainly starting with chain cpi, but the age, the copay, means testing. >> he's agreed to that. >> betting on competitive situation in between medicare manage and deeper service without any cap i mean it adds up to about a trillion dollars. and when you have a situation where americans are paying one-third of the cost of medicare, i don't think people realize that, but literally people are paying one-third of the cost of medicare, we have 20 million more americans coming on medicare over the next decade, i mean it's a time bomb. >> i agree with you it's
the john boehner has said chain cpi. and medicare eligibility age. >> right. >> those are the two things that he's laid out for medicare and social security. >> right. >> your party's nominee last year ran against obama -- or in this campaign ran against obama for cutting medicare. what are the specific entitlement savings that you guys want to enact? because that's your ask of obama. he's told you what taxes he wants to raise. >> i've got a whole list of them. i...
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moments ago, you are looking at video of house speaker john boehner and majority leader eric cantor walking in a republican conference meeting together. a show of solidarity, perhaps, after cantor came out against the bill that passed the senate this morning. looking live outside the meeting now. tonight on "special report," g.o.p. lawmakers are suggesting they may amend that bill and send it back to the senate. we'll explain what that means when we have live reports on both sides of pennsylvania avenue. potennial market reaction to the late moves. at the white house, president obama's plane but gassed up and ready to go back to hawaii. but with no vote and no communication with boehner, what now? "special report" from washington with all the fiscal cliff latest starts at 6:00. now back to "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ >> juan: getting redty to party. the last segment we took a look at the serious moments on "the five" this year. now let's get to the good stuff. roll the tape. ♪ notice >> are we non- >> bob. >> sorry. ♪ ♪ notice ♪ ♪ >> hostess brand maker of twinkies. [ laughter ] >> lo
moments ago, you are looking at video of house speaker john boehner and majority leader eric cantor walking in a republican conference meeting together. a show of solidarity, perhaps, after cantor came out against the bill that passed the senate this morning. looking live outside the meeting now. tonight on "special report," g.o.p. lawmakers are suggesting they may amend that bill and send it back to the senate. we'll explain what that means when we have live reports on both sides of...
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boehner can bring his troops along. i think we have pretty strong evidence of that a real tough one for him. at this point, unless he's willing to say, i'll allow a vote to get over the transom with majority democrats then it looks to me like we're going over the cliff and i don't think he's willing to do that before the end of the year. i do think relative to something you guys were just talking about, that a bungee jump scenario is actually kind of plausible. and i think that's what they may be talking about at the white house today. how can we quickly reverse the damage? >> okay. now that we've ghot. the cliff out of the way, what's are number one biggest, most out rangeious prediction in 2013? >> i don't know how outrageous it is, my number one prediction is what i call the three "is." investment, immigration and implementation. eamon talked about immigration. i think he's 100% right on that. i think the political stars are uniquely aligned. investment in public goods. this is really important it's part of the presi
boehner can bring his troops along. i think we have pretty strong evidence of that a real tough one for him. at this point, unless he's willing to say, i'll allow a vote to get over the transom with majority democrats then it looks to me like we're going over the cliff and i don't think he's willing to do that before the end of the year. i do think relative to something you guys were just talking about, that a bungee jump scenario is actually kind of plausible. and i think that's what they may...
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it was only yesterday on the senate floor that harry reid called john boehner a dictator. in the past these meetings haven't produced much progress. the goal appears to be to shield most americans from automatic tax increases due to eat into their paychecks starting next week in the form of federal income tax withholding. the president has agreed to raisin come taxes on americans over $400,000. also an effort to extend jobless benefits for america's out of work for six months or more. these are microscopic goals but might be all that the political system with accomplish. >> major, do we have any reason to believe that this time it is different? >> certainly because the deadline is real the house is coming back in session on sunday. everyone is going to be here either to preside over america going over the fiscal cliff and all of us watching it together orr last minute small deal that averts it for a while and leaves more negotiations for the future. >> major garrett thank you very much. general norman schwarzkopf commander of the international coalition in the 1991 gulf wa
it was only yesterday on the senate floor that harry reid called john boehner a dictator. in the past these meetings haven't produced much progress. the goal appears to be to shield most americans from automatic tax increases due to eat into their paychecks starting next week in the form of federal income tax withholding. the president has agreed to raisin come taxes on americans over $400,000. also an effort to extend jobless benefits for america's out of work for six months or more. these are...
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house speaker john boehner, mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live from washington. what do we expect to happen today? any new offers from the president or house speaker? >> we don't know. right now, all eyes on the senate to see what senate majority leader harry reid can cobble together to get some republican support. technically, it's still possible to come to an agreement. that said, politically is a different story, and the prospects for coming to a deal are starting to dim. right now, we're hearing a whole lot of the blame game. a lot of public posturing from both sides as they prepare for the possibility of going over the cliff. let's listen to harry reid. >> we are here in washington working while members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching their kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, the speaker of the house, john boehner, sort of retorting to reid, ali. in a conference call he said the leaders should do more -- or pardon me. less talking
house speaker john boehner, mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live from washington. what do we expect to happen today? any new offers from the president or house speaker? >> we don't know. right now, all eyes on the senate to see what senate majority leader harry reid can cobble together to get some republican support. technically, it's still possible to come to an agreement. that said, politically is a different story, and the prospects for coming to a deal are...
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i think john boehner is actually a winner too and here's why. he was not forced at end of the day to make his members walk the plank because the vote is in 2013. and not 2012. the, you know, the grow very norquist pledge could be observed. having their members vote to reduce rates. you heard senator mcconnell talk about for 98% of the people. that was something frankly not crystal clear even as a week ago whether boehner could make that stick. so i think he gets a good outcome here and kind of keeps his people in line. heather: we have to see what happens today just about 30 minutes from now when they go back to the house. tony, what do you think, president obama and john boehner, winner or loser. >> rich is very magnanimous calling them both winners. boehner gets incomplete. the heavy lift will be really today. the caucus on republican side in the house is very conflicted over this we all understand we don't want tax rates to go up on everybody. but at the same time, as you mentioned, heather, there is no deficit reduction in a package supposed
i think john boehner is actually a winner too and here's why. he was not forced at end of the day to make his members walk the plank because the vote is in 2013. and not 2012. the, you know, the grow very norquist pledge could be observed. having their members vote to reduce rates. you heard senator mcconnell talk about for 98% of the people. that was something frankly not crystal clear even as a week ago whether boehner could make that stick. so i think he gets a good outcome here and kind of...
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that's going to be very politically dangerous for john boehner in the house. that's the bottom line. >> juliet: i know you are getting a lot of tweets. mine is like i blame, this i blame that guy. it's interesting to hear what you guys have to say about that first, let's go to peter doocy. what happens this weekend as far as negotiations are concerned? mr. doocy standing by in washington. hello, pete. >> dave: hello peter. >> hello juliet, dave and clayton. we have been told about meetings about ways to avoid the fiscal cliff. not sure how they are going to hammer out details in the house. the principle negotiators. the leadership from both parties could be brought in later in the day. president obama has said, he said yesterday that if those leaders and those congressional negotiators cannot figure out how to compromise, then is he going to tell the senate just to vote anyways because he thinks with an up or down vote, senators with a support the plan that is already out there. the main hold up with the deal so far has been a fight over who should be classifi
that's going to be very politically dangerous for john boehner in the house. that's the bottom line. >> juliet: i know you are getting a lot of tweets. mine is like i blame, this i blame that guy. it's interesting to hear what you guys have to say about that first, let's go to peter doocy. what happens this weekend as far as negotiations are concerned? mr. doocy standing by in washington. hello, pete. >> dave: hello peter. >> hello juliet, dave and clayton. we have been told...
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host: we will john boehner face a challenge to speaker? guest: there is grumbling, but the feeling is no. i did not think so. one of the most significant things that happened, going back to that press conference one week ago when the talk was in the air, eric cantor stood by his side, and that was a signal that if anybody is going to challenge him, it might be eric cantor. he will not challenge. he is absolutely on board. host: david lightman, thank you as always for being with us. guest: thank you for having me. host: we will check in with you again and your dog. every friday we look at america by the numbers. today, we want to focus on the issue of hunger in america. "washington journal" continues. negotiations are resuming this afternoon at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. [applause] >> there are cynics said that a party platform is something nobody bothers to read and it does not amount to much. whether it is different this time than it has ever been before, i believe the republican party has a platform that is a banner of bold, unmistakable ca
host: we will john boehner face a challenge to speaker? guest: there is grumbling, but the feeling is no. i did not think so. one of the most significant things that happened, going back to that press conference one week ago when the talk was in the air, eric cantor stood by his side, and that was a signal that if anybody is going to challenge him, it might be eric cantor. he will not challenge. he is absolutely on board. host: david lightman, thank you as always for being with us. guest: thank...
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boehner was trying to get the members to vote for. i think we need to get democratic votes on the senate side and republican votes on the house side. >> the game plan is to get some sort of comprehensive tax reform next year, hearing that in the is not and house. moderates like yourself, like olimpia snowe and joe lieberman and dig lugar, and on and, is it possible with the new conditioning next year to get some sort of tax reform when it's been impossible for the last year and a half. >> i hope so. we don't control but one house, and the democrats control one house and the presidency. we can't get everything we want. i am a don't raise taxes on anybody republican. >> but you're willing to compromise on that though, right? >> i certainly would rather have something somewhat lower than anything and try to see if we can get the development come up from 250. to be able to give the amt relief and the marriage penalty, child tax credit, even state tax relief for farmers and ranchers, those are all things that affect everyone in this countr
boehner was trying to get the members to vote for. i think we need to get democratic votes on the senate side and republican votes on the house side. >> the game plan is to get some sort of comprehensive tax reform next year, hearing that in the is not and house. moderates like yourself, like olimpia snowe and joe lieberman and dig lugar, and on and, is it possible with the new conditioning next year to get some sort of tax reform when it's been impossible for the last year and a half....
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house speaker john boehner is in ohio, president obama is in his native hawaii. you'll hear about a last ditch effort that may happen after the holiday. that story just a few moments away here as well. >>> a united states senator was arrested for drunk driving early sunday morning. idaho republican mike crapo was taken to jail in alexandria, virginia, after midnight. he was stopped for running a red light and charged with driving under the influence. senator crapo has issued an apology. he was released on $1,000 bond and he has a court date. >>> christmas, two days away, and for much of the country it's going to be a white one. heavy snowfall has blanketed several states, in the mountains of california up to five feet of snow is expected. snow is also falling back east as well. lake-effect snow has blanketed areas around cleveland and buffalo. high winds are threatening to delay flights at airports in new york, philadelphia and washington. >>> i have to warn you, the report you're about to see has some very graphic images of people hurt and dying. the latest from
house speaker john boehner is in ohio, president obama is in his native hawaii. you'll hear about a last ditch effort that may happen after the holiday. that story just a few moments away here as well. >>> a united states senator was arrested for drunk driving early sunday morning. idaho republican mike crapo was taken to jail in alexandria, virginia, after midnight. he was stopped for running a red light and charged with driving under the influence. senator crapo has issued an...
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you very well might have a situation where john boehner, the speaker, the leader of the republicans, will be embarrassed tomorrow because a lot of republicans will vote against it, but as long as they get a majority of the house, which is 218, and 30 or 35 republicans vote with the democrats, the bill will pass and become law and the president will immediately sign it. >> so the details of the deal are still largely unknown. what can you tell us about what in essence they've agreed upon tonight? i know i'm hearing that people on the far right and people on the far left are not happy with this. so it means it must be a compromise deal here. so what can you tell us about the particulars? >> reporter: >> the specifics which were outlined in the package is the president said i'm not going higher than 250,000 all during the campaign and he seems to have gone up to 450,000. the republicans who said we will never vote for a tax increase, we don't care if people are very wealthy, have agreed to vote for a tax increase, the estate tax which republicans are very concerned about will now be ind
you very well might have a situation where john boehner, the speaker, the leader of the republicans, will be embarrassed tomorrow because a lot of republicans will vote against it, but as long as they get a majority of the house, which is 218, and 30 or 35 republicans vote with the democrats, the bill will pass and become law and the president will immediately sign it. >> so the details of the deal are still largely unknown. what can you tell us about what in essence they've agreed upon...
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there will be a new election for speaker of the house, presumably john boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it seems of the republican caucus in the house of representatives who were unable to accept the results of the election in 2008 and steamed to continue to be unable to accept the results of the election in 2012. thus, they feel they have a license to hold the country hostage because they don't agree with two presidential elections, which is truly, truly if you think about it enough, which i choose not to, is rather bothersome. >> it's bothersome, and it doesn't fit their own agenda. in addition to object structure things they want to keep taxes down for most americans. it's not just about the tea party re
there will be a new election for speaker of the house, presumably john boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it...
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john boehner can't. he just can't pass a bill off his floor with a majority democrats and 20 republicans. >> the house already voted to extend all of the bush tax cuts. >> and the senate -- >> house leaders are right to say the ball is in the senate's court. until they act we can't know -- what kind of deal we come up with. >> the ball is always in the senate's court. that's how it works. >> you are both argue being process. here is what i don't understand. i stay to democrats that come on, what p the republicans voted to extend taxes on everybody that you want, would you means test social security and medicare? the vast majority say oh, no, no, no, no. >> not this democrat. i would absolutely support it. >> unfortunately you are not in congress. >> you are right. >> i talked to republicans. i said, listen, if tomorrow the democrats had an epiphany and decided representative ryan planes for making medicare a voucher system were the best thing to do, would you vote to raise taxes on millionaires and have
john boehner can't. he just can't pass a bill off his floor with a majority democrats and 20 republicans. >> the house already voted to extend all of the bush tax cuts. >> and the senate -- >> house leaders are right to say the ball is in the senate's court. until they act we can't know -- what kind of deal we come up with. >> the ball is always in the senate's court. that's how it works. >> you are both argue being process. here is what i don't understand. i stay...
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boehner created in the '90s, a house banking scandal. he lost his career, put on trial, exonerated, but he spent the last 20 years unappreciated. and i think he deserves recognition, joe early. >> phyllis diller. >> they were key makers. >> and rose to fame in the same era, i am very sorry to see go whitney houston. we're going to be back with more of our last word holiday show. ♪ ♪ ♪ phyllis, phyll . >>> welcome back to "the last word," holiday party. our new category is the biggest surprise of 2012. karen finney, what was the biggest surprise of 2012. >> that we were able to call the election around 11:00. >> i actually thought it would happen, by the time we got to california, closing time we would know. >> i really thought it would be a much bigger mess, and i didn't think the president would be able to win without us having a debacle in florida, and thankfully we didn't. >> joy reed, what was the big surprise? >> the big surprise was that mitt romney chose paul ryan as his running mate. he is the right guy? but as a democrat,
boehner created in the '90s, a house banking scandal. he lost his career, put on trial, exonerated, but he spent the last 20 years unappreciated. and i think he deserves recognition, joe early. >> phyllis diller. >> they were key makers. >> and rose to fame in the same era, i am very sorry to see go whitney houston. we're going to be back with more of our last word holiday show. ♪ ♪ ♪ phyllis, phyll . >>> welcome back to "the last word," holiday party....
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one question about john boehner and eric cantor and the rest of them, if leaders can't count, what can they do. how they went ahead with plan b knowing they didn't have the votes, i mean, that is sort of 101 in politics. >> make them reject one more time. make boehner and the republicans reject one more time. >> there's no real partner here. here's the broader question and it includes the gun debate. what are the president's priorities going to be after the first of the year? congressman, you heard wayne lapierre. does he reflect your views about how to approach any kind of remedy after a massacre like newtown, which is we should talk about everybody but guns? >> my wife and i, we have three kids. if there's something that we can do that will make sure that this never ever, ever, ever happens again, of course i'll support it, but i also -- >> come on, there's no standard likes that. that's why you try things. that's what public policy is about. >> i'm a concealed permit carrier, i have a glock 23, i have a shotgun. there are millions just like me. we're not the problem. i think there's
one question about john boehner and eric cantor and the rest of them, if leaders can't count, what can they do. how they went ahead with plan b knowing they didn't have the votes, i mean, that is sort of 101 in politics. >> make them reject one more time. make boehner and the republicans reject one more time. >> there's no real partner here. here's the broader question and it includes the gun debate. what are the president's priorities going to be after the first of the year?...
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the white house no longer really having any substantive conversations with house speaker john boehner or senate minority leader mitch mcconnell which is key in finding something to get through the senate and perhaps because of that, i guess some of that pessimism that you are hearing from republicans like senator brasso, shared by democrats. take a listen. >> i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not and that -- if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> so all eyes now on the senate, which will reconvene on thursday. senate majority leader harry reid has the task of trying to cobble something together that can get through, not only the senate, probably with republican support, but also through the house of representatives with some republican support. the white house still publicly saying they want the threshold for tax cuts to remain at $250,000 and below for folks to see tax cuts preserved what we hear from both sides, democrats and republi
the white house no longer really having any substantive conversations with house speaker john boehner or senate minority leader mitch mcconnell which is key in finding something to get through the senate and perhaps because of that, i guess some of that pessimism that you are hearing from republicans like senator brasso, shared by democrats. take a listen. >> i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not and that -- if we allow that to happen, it will be the most...
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but there's someone noticeably absent and that is speaker john boehner. where is he? and has he been benched sort of in this process? >> he was here at the capitol this morning. our producer on capitol hill reports he was meeting with his chief of staff. we don't know the what they were talking about. he was here at the capitol. only he and senator mcconnell have been here today. you know, i think the situation is such that after speaker boehner lost that vote, and there is walking in from earlier in the week, after speaker boehner lost the vote in his own caucus in the house, it was clear and he even said as much, that the senate needed to act. that's for a couple of reasons. one, the senate has that 60-vote threshold to get anything through and conservativives in the house want cover, they don't want to pass something and have it run into trouble in the senate because they would be sticking their neck out to some degree especially those conservatives or republicans worried about a tea party challenge next time around. so for a lot of reasons, everything has to start
but there's someone noticeably absent and that is speaker john boehner. where is he? and has he been benched sort of in this process? >> he was here at the capitol this morning. our producer on capitol hill reports he was meeting with his chief of staff. we don't know the what they were talking about. he was here at the capitol. only he and senator mcconnell have been here today. you know, i think the situation is such that after speaker boehner lost that vote, and there is walking in...